Episode Transcript
SPEAKER A
Hello. I'm Kaysie Butler, and I want to welcome you to healthy living around the world. I am on site at the health training school at Centre for Health in Bulgaria, and today my guest is Jordan Sanchez. Welcome to the program, Jordan.
SPEAKER B
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER A
Now Jordan, you're here at a health training school, obviously learning about healthy living. But where are you from originally?
SPEAKER B
I'm from Mexico in a small city that is Pisaco in Platzcala.
SPEAKER A
Okay, so all the way from Mexico, you're here in Bulgaria. So how did that come about? Why did you want to come here to this school?
SPEAKER B
I think because I decided to be missionary. So God opened doors by different places. So I was working like a missionary in Egypt after I went to Levano. This is the way that I am here.
SPEAKER A
Yes. Okay, so you've come here to learn healthy Living so that you can help people when you're doing your missionary work?
SPEAKER B
Yeah, sure. Yeah, I come for good.
SPEAKER A
Good. So maybe would you like to share a little bit about what kind of things you've been learning in your training?
SPEAKER B
Okay, we are learning about how to use natural remedies, the eight natural laws.
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
Also we are learning how we can find the eight natural laws by the Bible also.
SPEAKER A
So they're all in the Bible, all the eight natural laws.
SPEAKER B
We are studying about that. We are in the air.
SPEAKER A
Yes.
SPEAKER B
We didn't finish this.
SPEAKER A
Okay, you're still learning. That's very interesting.
SPEAKER B
So we are doing this now. And also for the place that we are going to serve, we are learning also how to explain this to musing people. So this is the way that we are going to do.
SPEAKER A
Okay. How you can actually teach that to others. That's very good. Have you had much experience with actually applying these principles in your own life, these Healthy Living principles?
SPEAKER B
Yeah, actually when I entered to the university, even I was not Adventist, so I wanted to change to study, but also I wanted to have an experience with God. God was helping me there. I was canvassing and I decided not eat anymore meat.
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
Maybe another things that usually not Adventists do. So for me it was a very good experience and I didn't get any sick. And until now I am maybe since 2010. Until now it's nine years without meat.
SPEAKER A
Right. So you've been all this time without eating any meat?
SPEAKER B
Yeah.
SPEAKER A
And you've been fine with that?
SPEAKER B
I am fine with that. I'm not feeling any problem. So I think that I am keeping my way since this moment and I am feeling good.
SPEAKER A
Great. Yeah. Okay, that's good to hear. How do you find the food?
SPEAKER B
Normally we cook trying to cook without oil or normal oil. We use something like more healthy, like olive oil or six grips oil or another kind of oil that is not bad for our body. Also vegetables try to drink good water every day. Yes, seeds. I like to eat seeds. So that help us to maybe sometimes we need some vitamins or some complement or food that we don't have. For example, nutrients that we have in the meat we can supply by some seeds or food.
SPEAKER A
So you're able to get all the nutrients you need just from plant sources?
SPEAKER B
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER A
Okay, good.
SPEAKER B
That's excellent. This is my experience and I like it. And I never mind to go back to my life way food or try to eat.
SPEAKER A
Okay, you're happy just to continue doing this way?
SPEAKER B
Yeah, I like it. And I think God provide everything as we can change our way to eat and be more healthy. So we are trying to do like before, like knowing in the then how the people were eating and after that also. So trying to avoid things that is not good for our bodies.
SPEAKER A
Yes, that is very good. So is there a lifestyle habit that you have or principle that you follow that is your favorite?
SPEAKER B
Actually, the eight law remedies is good. Like to make a total reform.
SPEAKER A
Okay, and which are those? What are the eight laws? In brief?
SPEAKER B
Okay, for example, nutrition, temperance, air, sunlight, trusting God.
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
Yeah. I remember five exercises. I'm liking the two. So these ones I like to do. I feel that it's helping us too much and to be more healthy. And that will help us to know more even to how to do the correct things more wise, so we can last a little bit more time for serving God. Not only for to be healthy.
SPEAKER A
So you can live longer?
SPEAKER B
I don't pretend to live longer. I pretend to be healthy.
SPEAKER A
Yes.
SPEAKER B
So I can work for God better.
SPEAKER A
Good. Okay. So you notice a difference in how your health affects your ability to work for God?
SPEAKER B
Of course. That help us a lot. Especially when you are sick or you have any problem, you cannot serve God as 100%. So trying to keep yourself help you to do better in serving God.
SPEAKER A
Wow, okay, that's good to hear. Have you noticed any difference in how living healthfully enables you to have a better relationship with God?
SPEAKER B
Of course. Also this is something about fidelity. Even it's connected with that.
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
I can say about Daniel first chapter where he were called to stay in the Kingdom of Nazar.
SPEAKER A
Yes.
SPEAKER B
So he were telling to the people who were giving him food that he wanted to give another kind of food because first the food that he were receiving, or they were receiving because they were friends. So they were receiving food that fears were given to the idols and after they were putting in their plates.
SPEAKER A
Yes.
SPEAKER B
You can imagine it's the food for the king. Maybe it's good food, but he didn't saw this. He saw the bad of this food because for example, they have drinking that is not good because probably the alcohol cannot help us to be wise. Yes, or maybe another kind of drinking. So for sure, what they give to the idols was not clean food was not pure as they were Jews. So they were trying to eat just as they know, as their laws have. So all of these kind of things helped them to have a good relationship with God. And the wisdom come from God. So that help to do something good, to improve, to help the people to be more spiritual. This is very important for have a connection with God. So I never mind a person, for example, that wanted to have a good relationship with God if they want to have pleasure by themselves, but not with.
SPEAKER A
God, only for themselves.
SPEAKER B
Through what they like. Yes, what they like to eat, for example.
SPEAKER A
So if people do that, then how can they have their own pleasure but then have God? It doesn't really mix.
SPEAKER B
Yeah, but in this case everything is complete. Not only food, we need to have exercise because it's not working. For example, you try to be healthy, but you don't do exercise. So this not help you. It's like not have a balance. For example, also to get some vitamin D, that we really need vitamin D for be more healthy, not have depression sometimes. So sometimes that's not healthy. We are in a close place or we don't try to expose our body to the sun. So we need to know what is the good time to go outside, so we cannot be affected also for the sun, because sometimes we get other problem, these kind of things that help us to have a good relationship with God. Yeah.
SPEAKER A
So you're noticing that a faithfulness in these natural health laws of our bodies is helping us with our faithfulness and closeness to God?
SPEAKER B
Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER A
That's interesting. That's very good where you've described that. So if there is someone, if you meet someone, for example, who is wanting to change their lifestyle for better, maybe adopt one of those eight laws that you mentioned, what would you say is good for them to think about in terms of, I don't know, a strategy or something that you've learned in your experience that helps them in making those changes?
SPEAKER B
Okay, maybe if somebody wants to start, I start with something that is very important. Yes. Can I say that I didn't read my Bible before to be Adventist?
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
Also I went to the university at this time, 23 years old. So I wanted to know more about God. When my friends or people that I start to know, they start to teach me what Bible say. So for me was very nice experience that start me to transform my mind, my thinking. So we can start with that, with your relationship with God, with that you will be open for accept what is good.
SPEAKER A
So you think that having an open connection with God is an important foundation for making more changes in your life in other areas.
SPEAKER B
For sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
This is the pillar that we need to establish everything.
SPEAKER A
And you found that in your own experience?
SPEAKER B
I found it interesting, yeah. What's something that really I want to say to the people that help a lot. So can I see many people that is very sick, people that have a lot of problems, but I think sometimes we forget God.
SPEAKER A
Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER B
So when we start with God again, so we can try to see after that, we transform many things.
SPEAKER A
Okay.
SPEAKER B
This is like the pillar that we need for change.
SPEAKER A
Right. God is the pillar for change. I like that.
SPEAKER B
Yeah.
SPEAKER A
I think that's well, we know God is all powerful. He's powerful that's tapping into a good source of strength for making changes.
SPEAKER B
Yeah. And everything is in the writings in the Bible. So we need to know more about why we do this, why we do that, what is more correct all the time. We need to do this before read the Bible, what say God and we can start do something. Because God wants they're good for us, not make us any problem. If not what or well, that's very.
SPEAKER A
He wants our health and good well being and happiness, doesn't he? God does. Yes, that's right. Well, very good. Thank you so much for sharing with us your thoughts and experience today. It's been very interesting.
SPEAKER B
Yeah. Thank you so much for inviting you're.
SPEAKER A
Welcome. We have been recording on location today at center for Health, the training school here at center for Health in Bulgaria. And we've been speaking with Jordan Sanchez, who's our guest today. You've been listening to healthy living around the world. I'm your host, Kaysie Butler. And until next time, God bless.